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  Outrageous Omission – Blood

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  outrageous omission blood.

  today i uploaded an article i have worked on for some time.

  it expounds and illustrates a revolting habit watchtower has of refraining from wide distribution of life-saving information clearly and promptly.

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  The Society here has a dog by its proverbial ears (Prov. 26:17). It seems they're keenly intent on making their anti-abstention policies go away somehow; but if they overtly "free the dog" it will bite them mightily in the posterior, provoking in all porbability an avalanche of law suits and adverse publicity.

  These policies came into effect when the Society had far fewer assets; it seems most if not all of their current policies, from the 1985 change in baptismal vows, to the creation of satellite corporations, the institutionalized pretense that local congregations are autonomous, etc. have but one agenda: asset preservation.

  Marvin, heartfelt thanks for calling this to our attention; it's a thread that deserved to be revisited regularly and bumped up to the top of the queue.
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  Interesting discussion about Bethel

  by DagothUr in

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  it's from the jwtalk.net (the jdub forum).

  the name of the topic is "bethel volunteers?":.

  dub1: it was announced at our meeting last night volunteers for bethel in nyc.

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  "I wouldn't mind doing something like this if I could just offer a week, maybe 2 at the most." What?!! Is that all you can afford to offer on Jehovah's altar? What a piker... looks like a blemished lamb to me!
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  Man finds $17,000 cash and turns it in ... JW?

  by wannabefree in

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  despite this man's facial hair and no mention of religion, he must be one of jehovah's witnesses, cuz surely no worldly person would be so honest.. serioulsy, he credits his parents.

  it always irritated me that whenever a witness does something good they have to throw in "as one of jehovah's witnesses ...." as though they were implying they would otherwise not have done the right thing.. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chibrknews-man-finds-17000and-turns-it-in-20110609,0,6950954.story.

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  And, what about this (very recent) thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/211746/1/Lost-my-entire-coin-stamp-and-paper-money-collection-surprising-story
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  Man finds $17,000 cash and turns it in ... JW?

  by wannabefree in

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  despite this man's facial hair and no mention of religion, he must be one of jehovah's witnesses, cuz surely no worldly person would be so honest.. serioulsy, he credits his parents.

  it always irritated me that whenever a witness does something good they have to throw in "as one of jehovah's witnesses ...." as though they were implying they would otherwise not have done the right thing.. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chibrknews-man-finds-17000and-turns-it-in-20110609,0,6950954.story.

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  wannabe... I'm willing to bet the guy isn't a JW; if your curiosity warrants it, why not look up this Robert Adams or Greg Jarrett, the reporter who did the story? Here's are a couple of instructive links for the naive to consider: http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/almost-as-bad.htm and http://www.perjureddeposition.com/2011/03/ron-nelson-construction-montana.html
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  Who wrote the May 22, 1969 Awake article "What Future for the Young"?

  by VM44 in

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  does anyone know who wrote the may 22, 1969 awake!

  article, "what future for the young?"?.

  i wonder if they still are at bethel.. .

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  Hey VM 44... is it possible to get a printable copy of that page... it would be priceless to those of us w/o access to a bound volume!
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-05-2011 WT Study (SERIOUSNESS)

  by blondie in

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  christians = only jws.

  what if other jws take us too seriously?.

  christian life = only jws are true christians.

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  Well done, as usual, Blondie; thanks. It's scary the lengths they go to orchestrate every aspect of the JW's behavior; it's a rare "kool-aid" WT study that doesn't focus entirely on behavior modfication/manipulation.
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  The Watchtower Society Hedge Fund

  by TJ Curioso in

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  the watchtower society hedge fundseveral weeks ago it came to my attention via the e-jehovahs-witnesses discussion board that the watchtower society had devised a new money raising scheme.

  the scheme is to beg and borrow money from each individual congregation account, which they deem to be in excess of the congregation's actual expenses.

  i half jokingly responded to the topic then that the watchtower has become a hedge fund.

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  There was a Bethel contingent in attendance at a seminar in the Bloomberg headquarters office, to which subscribers to the company's $20,000-per-year financial analysis/news terminal were invited. One of them handed me his business card with the title" International Cash Manager." The WT has more than one of these dandy little real-time monitors which empower large-scale investors with state-of-the-art bond analytics.
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  San Diego Officials, Line Up Against New Earth's Princes

  by Bangalore in

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  bangalore.

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  Black Sheep,

  If they had buried him there, they would have had to exhume his body before any sale of the property. That would have been fun!
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  Unrest in the Governing Body

  by JWFreak in

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  one of the many questions that i am asked is what are the current gb members like, who are the hardliners and who are more moderate.. because of my previous job, at a european bethel, i had dealings with most of them with the exception of sam herd.. these are my observations of my conversations with them and how others who had dealings with them.. other ex bethelites may have contrary views to mine, but i would be surprised.. i had spent a lot of time with splane, lett and morris.

  hardliners.

  david splane, without doubt the one who commands the most respect and attention.

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  The wording in recent WT articles referring to the writers/contributors as "representatives" of the GB suggests that none of these guys does any writing. It's clear there's no one in the house anywhere close to Freddy or Karl Adams in exegesis or infusing the literature with insightful argumentation or perspective. It seems clear the current GB is focused simply holding things together while hoping against hope the Big A arrives in time to rescue them.
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  In a bad situation - blood

  by Joey Jo-Jo in

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  my jw mom had a bad car accident, she has neck problems and she might need a transfusion, so this is what ray means when illusion meets with reality, anyway i need to voice my opinion on the matter without pushing her away..

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  Has she recovered from the accident and now needs corrective surgery? If so, it would appear that the WT has left open a "crack in the door" with regards to the use of autologous blood (one's own blood drawn and stored prior to surgery) .. The October 2001 WT mentions recourse to one's own blood if it's used as part of "current therapy." This for them is a significant liberalization; I read it on a thread somewher, maybe Marvin Shilmer can help here.